WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:04.640 This image, the R episode 2015 entitled Lilux in the Church. 00:04.640 --> 00:08.880 It is posted my first time post-show, and in about 19 minutes long. 00:08.880 --> 00:13.720 The summary is, how I'm using Lilux for many of my projects at church. 00:13.720 --> 00:18.200 This episode of HBR is brought to you by AnanasToast.com. 00:18.200 --> 00:27.000 Get 15% discount on all shared hosting with the offer code HBR15, that's HBR15. 00:27.000 --> 00:30.880 Make your web hosting that's AnastonFair at AnanasToast.com. 00:57.000 --> 01:13.000 Hello, Hacker Public Radio, family. 01:13.000 --> 01:14.400 Joselino here. 01:14.400 --> 01:22.520 This is my first recording for Hacker Public Radio, just finished listening to recording 01:22.520 --> 01:29.160 and how someone recorded their band and Linux. 01:29.160 --> 01:35.760 And so you got me thinking, I've been using Linux for quite a while, been doing a lot 01:35.760 --> 01:40.760 with it at my church, and I thought maybe this would be helpful for others. 01:40.760 --> 01:42.200 So let me introduce myself. 01:42.200 --> 01:43.200 I'm Joselino. 01:43.200 --> 01:45.560 I live in Upstate, New York. 01:45.560 --> 01:52.360 I am an Evangelical Christian, which might be a little foreign to listeners, especially 01:52.360 --> 01:54.080 those in Europe. 01:54.080 --> 02:05.640 But I lived quite a crazy life up until the age of 30 and decided that I needed something 02:05.640 --> 02:13.880 deeper to guide my life, and so I jumped into a faith in Christ and haven't looked back 02:13.880 --> 02:14.880 since. 02:14.880 --> 02:17.120 Best decision I've ever made. 02:17.120 --> 02:22.480 You don't have to park your brain at the door when you believe in God. 02:22.480 --> 02:23.880 There's many good sites out there. 02:23.880 --> 02:31.040 I would suggest for those of you who are skeptical of God or faith. 02:31.040 --> 02:37.200 A couple of them would be reasons to believe science, perspective and faith, reasonable faith. 02:37.200 --> 02:46.240 That's a philosophical ministry that really has probably thousands of articles and 02:46.240 --> 02:53.840 great podcasts on philosophical understanding of the world today and faith, stand to 02:53.840 --> 03:00.520 reason, many, many sites out there for those who are open minded and would like to look 03:00.520 --> 03:08.560 into how faith can really be a thoughtful way to live your life. 03:08.560 --> 03:12.440 But anyway, let me get on to the subject at hand. 03:12.440 --> 03:18.680 I wanted to discuss how I've been gently introducing my church to Linux. 03:18.680 --> 03:23.440 I've been using Linux since I would say late 90s. 03:23.440 --> 03:25.920 I started out with the Mandrake Linux. 03:25.920 --> 03:32.520 It was the only distro I could get to recognize most of my hardware, my computer, and 03:32.520 --> 03:34.640 I really enjoyed Mandrake. 03:34.640 --> 03:37.240 That was an awesome distribution. 03:37.240 --> 03:43.000 The only problem I had with it was Lilo, I'd work at stuff every once in a while and 03:43.000 --> 03:44.880 I couldn't boot it. 03:44.880 --> 03:51.880 Mandrake had an option to create a floppy disc, emergency boot, floppy disc. 03:51.880 --> 03:56.440 That was great because I would keep three or four of those in my desk drawer and whenever 03:56.440 --> 04:01.280 Mandrake wouldn't boot, I'd just throw that in and I could boot back into it. 04:01.280 --> 04:02.680 That was great. 04:02.680 --> 04:12.200 I tried red hat, I think back in late 90s also, and that was also Lilo, boot. 04:12.200 --> 04:19.920 Drab really was a great way to boot later on. 04:19.920 --> 04:23.280 I didn't use Linux exclusively at that time. 04:23.280 --> 04:32.360 I just couldn't use it regularly and reliably because of hardware issues and all that. 04:32.360 --> 04:39.760 As soon as a boot to came around, I jumped right on WordyWorthHog back and I think that 04:39.760 --> 04:50.080 was 2005 and from that time on, I never looked back, I ditched Windows and exclusively used 04:50.080 --> 04:51.080 Linux. 04:51.080 --> 05:01.560 In Joy Linux, let me confess, I am not a coder, I am not a hacker in the traditional 05:01.560 --> 05:08.800 sense, but I love hardware, I love turn, down computers, I love anything digital, playing 05:08.800 --> 05:17.160 around with digital creation, stuff like that, Linux just fit me like a glove and I love 05:17.160 --> 05:18.160 it. 05:18.160 --> 05:24.160 Unfortunately, in my present situation, I am a technical director at my church, Windows 05:24.160 --> 05:28.840 is just a way of life in most churches. 05:28.840 --> 05:34.840 So I have had to learn to accept that and I do use Windows at church, but as I said earlier, 05:34.840 --> 05:43.720 I am generally introducing Linux to my church family and to my tech team and I haven't 05:43.720 --> 05:54.040 really run into any pushback, I use Linux Mint, my TA version, sit them in both of those, 05:54.040 --> 06:02.680 and I set it up so that the desktop looks so much like Windows as far as the GUI using 06:02.680 --> 06:11.400 a key to start menu down at the bottom and I just set it up so that everybody is familiar 06:11.400 --> 06:18.520 with the whole paradigm of the old known days with the start menu at the bottom and 06:18.520 --> 06:23.440 applications on the desktop stuff like that, so that hasn't been a problem. 06:23.440 --> 06:28.880 Some of the things that I am using Linux for a church, I started out by using it as just 06:28.880 --> 06:32.600 a backup computer which store all our files on there. 06:32.600 --> 06:39.000 And then we moved out of the analog world on our sound board and moved into the digital 06:39.000 --> 06:42.640 world by purchasing a barrenger X32. 06:42.640 --> 06:49.480 Let me just say for those of you who are into sound production, the barrenger X32 is an 06:49.480 --> 06:52.720 awesome board for the price. 06:52.720 --> 06:59.580 Now I'm kind of late to the world of sound, I just got into it in my later years as a 06:59.580 --> 07:04.880 volunteer church and then gradually learned more because I was just so into it. 07:04.880 --> 07:07.000 The analog world is very foreign to me. 07:07.000 --> 07:11.240 It was very difficult to learn the operation of the board. 07:11.240 --> 07:14.080 We had an old Mackey that we used. 07:14.080 --> 07:21.680 And when we purchased the barrenger X32 with motorized faders, layered channels, all kinds 07:21.680 --> 07:31.320 of good stuff, digital recording, all that, it was a lot easier for me to use the barrenger 07:31.320 --> 07:34.160 board because it was basically a giant computer. 07:34.160 --> 07:37.760 I mean, it operated very much like a computer. 07:37.760 --> 07:45.760 It has all its onboard effects right there on the board, so we didn't even need our 07:45.760 --> 07:54.680 outboard effects units anymore, so yeah, I really enjoyed the X32 and it really motivated 07:54.680 --> 07:57.400 me to learn a lot more about sound. 07:57.400 --> 08:06.280 Let me make a plug for a fellow who's put a lot of tutorials on YouTube, Drew Brashler. 08:06.280 --> 08:10.320 Really awesome videos, he puts up there about the X32 and how to operate. 08:10.320 --> 08:14.720 I learned quite a bit from him, so there's a shoutout to Drew, thank you for all those 08:14.720 --> 08:17.040 videos tutorial as you produce. 08:17.040 --> 08:28.640 So anyway, next is we started experimenting with multi-track recording and one we would want 08:28.640 --> 08:34.040 to record our bands, rehearsals or even some of the services, worship services. 08:34.040 --> 08:40.000 I started out trying our door and Linux on my laptop, just coming in with off the board 08:40.000 --> 08:50.800 done an analog plug plug in, but the results were not very good and with the board, the X32 08:50.800 --> 08:57.640 came a software package called Traction and we installed that on our Windows computer. 08:57.640 --> 08:59.040 That works very well. 08:59.040 --> 09:06.200 I later found out by just doing a little research that Traction is, I believe it's Linux, 09:06.200 --> 09:13.280 it's open, open source software, but it's sold, it's sold for Windows, but barrens 09:13.280 --> 09:16.760 or gives it away free when you buy an X32. 09:16.760 --> 09:24.040 So when I researched the Traction software on their website, I realized that they gave 09:24.040 --> 09:27.680 away the Linux version. 09:27.680 --> 09:31.840 They don't make it actually very easy to find it on their website and you don't get 09:31.840 --> 09:37.600 the latest version, but they do give away the Linux version of Traction and I highly recommend 09:37.600 --> 09:43.360 that it's good software for doing multi-track recording. 09:43.360 --> 09:52.920 It's a different GUI than like pro tools or some of the others, but easy to, it's fairly 09:52.920 --> 09:55.720 intuitive, easy to get a handle on. 09:55.720 --> 10:02.800 So we use that at Church and I've installed it on Linux and works fine, we use Jack 10:02.800 --> 10:09.840 Control Kit as the background driver and works well. 10:09.840 --> 10:18.120 Also we record our sermons through the barrens X32, it has built into Traction USB. 10:18.120 --> 10:25.680 When we're done recording, I just throw that recording on our Linux backs in open audacity 10:25.680 --> 10:37.240 and edit it, mix it down to MP3 and use a great plugin in firefacts to upload through 10:37.240 --> 10:46.400 FTP to our servers, I think it's fire FTP is what I use, a great little piece of software. 10:46.400 --> 10:53.840 And when we have people come in and ask for a CD of the sermons, we used it exclusively 10:53.840 --> 11:01.640 use CDs and burn all our sermons to CDs and now since we've gotten the X32, it does 11:01.640 --> 11:06.240 have the USB recording which makes things much easier. 11:06.240 --> 11:08.360 But we do have people that still want CDs. 11:08.360 --> 11:17.040 So I use Berserro and Linux to burn them CDs, works very efficiently, can burn them 11:17.040 --> 11:18.720 a CD very quickly. 11:18.720 --> 11:24.320 Also in the Church environment, when people walk in you have a little bit of time before 11:24.320 --> 11:29.320 service starts, so we like to play a little walk in music, you know, 5-10 minutes before 11:29.320 --> 11:38.000 service starts and the band starts playing, we will use VLC or normally we'll use 11:38.000 --> 11:42.920 Clementine, a beautiful media player, I really like Clementine, it did have some issues 11:42.920 --> 11:49.440 with memory early on when they first started using it, but I haven't noticed that lately, 11:49.440 --> 11:54.920 so I believe they work that out in the newer versions. 11:54.920 --> 12:01.800 But Clementine's a great piece of software, I enjoy it and we use that to play back music 12:01.800 --> 12:08.160 that I've ripped to my computer, I'll use a CD player sometimes, but usually I'll use 12:08.160 --> 12:12.640 the computer to play back, walk in music, music playing in the background as people walk 12:12.640 --> 12:13.640 in. 12:13.640 --> 12:19.680 Now one thing I failed to mention when I edit the sermons, before I upload them to our 12:19.680 --> 12:25.160 servers, I do tag them with this piece of software called Puddle Tag. 12:25.160 --> 12:29.960 One of many tagging pieces of software out there, very easy to use, I haven't gotten 12:29.960 --> 12:38.120 into some of the more detailed things you can do with it, but it meets my needs, works great. 12:38.120 --> 12:42.920 So I tag it, throw a picture on there of our church, upload it to the server and then of course 12:42.920 --> 12:49.360 when it's downloaded the sermons title date, our pastor's name, and a picture of churches 12:49.360 --> 12:52.400 is right there on the MP3 file. 12:52.400 --> 12:59.160 Recently, I was looking for a solution to a broadcaster, our service is live. 12:59.160 --> 13:06.400 I had played around with the idea of broadcasting our services with video doing the YouTube 13:06.400 --> 13:13.240 thing, but one thing I've seen is you don't really get a big bang for your buck doing 13:13.240 --> 13:14.240 that thing. 13:14.240 --> 13:21.160 There's not a whole lot of people that take advantage of video feed in a mid-sized church 13:21.160 --> 13:27.160 such as ours, and so it's a lot of work for little gain actually. 13:27.160 --> 13:31.960 So I decided to go with the sound live sound. 13:31.960 --> 13:38.360 I didn't want to incur any costs to the church, so I had known of icecass, I had tried 13:38.360 --> 13:43.360 it on my own computer at home a couple of years ago, and found that it was fairly easy 13:43.360 --> 13:49.760 to use, like everything else in Linux, you know, it's a file, everything works in 13:49.760 --> 13:57.120 a configuration file, and like I said, I'm not a coder, but I can work configuration 13:57.120 --> 14:01.520 files, and a few bash scripts and stuff like that. 14:01.520 --> 14:07.000 But anyway, I had tried dark ice, some of the other pieces of software that go along with 14:07.000 --> 14:15.040 icecass to broadcast, and I found a nifty piece of software called BUTT, broadcast using 14:15.040 --> 14:16.200 this tool. 14:16.200 --> 14:24.240 The guys at church got a kick out of that acronym there, and anyway, but is a very nice piece 14:24.240 --> 14:31.080 of software that goes along with icecass to take your life feed and stream it to icecass 14:31.080 --> 14:35.600 out to the internet, and it's working wonderfully for us. 14:35.600 --> 14:43.120 I had, I spent about two or three weeks with a dry run, asking people to just listen and 14:43.120 --> 14:48.680 let me know how the quality was, and over a two or three week period, I would kind of 14:48.680 --> 14:50.400 tweak things here and there. 14:50.400 --> 14:55.400 We haven't running just fine now, we don't have a whole lot of listeners, but I'm sure 14:55.400 --> 14:58.640 as people find out about it, it'll be utilized more. 14:58.640 --> 15:07.120 Just another way of using Linux to expand the church's resources and ministries and help 15:07.120 --> 15:12.480 move the church out of the proprietary software mindset. 15:12.480 --> 15:14.560 Like I said, we still use Windows. 15:14.560 --> 15:19.360 One of the things we have to use Windows for is ProPresenter, that's presentation, piece 15:19.360 --> 15:24.800 of software, exclusively for churches, and it's a great piece of software. 15:24.800 --> 15:30.440 Love it, it does a lot of things for you, it presents your slides, gives you the ability 15:30.440 --> 15:39.600 to overlay images, present your lyrics, play video seamlessly with PowerPoint, which we were 15:39.600 --> 15:46.040 using previously I had to re-encode every video I played back to WMV before I could 15:46.040 --> 15:52.520 play it in PowerPoint, it was a real pain, and now I can play just about any kind of video 15:52.520 --> 15:54.280 in ProPresenter. 15:54.280 --> 15:57.200 Unfortunately, like I said, it does run on Windows. 15:57.200 --> 16:02.040 There is open source presentation software out there, but ProPresenter is a great piece 16:02.040 --> 16:07.000 of software, so we're using that and enjoy it. 16:07.000 --> 16:13.120 I'm just about to start a new project that will be shooting videos, I've done some minor 16:13.120 --> 16:21.680 stuff today, but we're going to be jumping into that in a bigger way, and for videos 16:21.680 --> 16:29.720 right now for small projects I use OpenShot, it's sufficient, it's a nice piece of software, 16:29.720 --> 16:34.960 I don't really do a whole lot of video editing right now, I'll probably be learning how 16:34.960 --> 16:39.680 to do a lot more of that, I'll be doing more videos, so I'll need something probably 16:39.680 --> 16:44.200 a little more feature rich than OpenShot, but OpenShot's a good piece of software, it does 16:44.200 --> 16:48.320 the job, I've used Cade and Live, and I think that's probably what I'll move to when 16:48.320 --> 16:55.760 I start doing more videos and need some more elements, but yeah, videos are going to be, 16:55.760 --> 17:00.480 I'm looking forward to doing those, they're going to be a great asset to our church and 17:00.480 --> 17:06.840 to encouraging people, so that's what that's about, another thing that I've started doing 17:06.840 --> 17:13.000 is a podcast for our church, I went out and I picked up a $100 mixer, the barrens, your 17:13.000 --> 17:23.080 Xenix Q1202, USB mixer, I like it, the only thing it doesn't do, it only lets you record 17:23.080 --> 17:31.560 two tracks over USB, and I wish I had looked more into that before I bought it, I would 17:31.560 --> 17:41.520 have liked to record at least four tracks, but if I record analog, I can do what I need 17:41.520 --> 17:49.960 to do, we've recorded quite a few podcasts now exploring the connection between worship 17:49.960 --> 17:55.760 music and the active worship that was one of our themes, also looking at volunteering, 17:55.760 --> 18:02.160 well, the aspect of volunteering in a church, the demands on people, their lives are so busy, 18:02.160 --> 18:08.480 now, how do they find time to volunteer, why do they do it, those types of things, right now 18:08.480 --> 18:14.160 we're moving into a theme, on leadership, I'm interviewing people about that aspect of 18:14.160 --> 18:18.960 church life and ministry, so it's been very fruitful, people have enjoyed it, we don't have 18:18.960 --> 18:23.600 a lot of listeners, but like everything else, if you stick with it, it will grow, it will 18:23.600 --> 18:31.680 expand and it'll be fruitful, I truly believe that, and so we'll stick with it, and it's 18:31.680 --> 18:36.960 about it, I found Linux to be a great asset to our church, people have not given me much 18:36.960 --> 18:44.000 pushback, they just use it, a lot of people don't even realize that much of a difference, 18:44.000 --> 18:50.560 most people don't understand the whole philosophy behind the open source movement, free 18:50.560 --> 18:59.040 and open source, it's something that just doesn't enter their mindset, that's one reason 18:59.040 --> 19:06.640 I do like to use Linux is the idea of free and open source, and that is ardent as somebody 19:06.640 --> 19:14.960 like, you know who I mean, you know, I do use proprietary software when I have to, so for me 19:14.960 --> 19:23.440 it's more of a pragmatic thing, if I need something, I use it, but I prefer to use Linux, so thanks 19:23.440 --> 19:28.240 for listening, hope you will consider some of the things I've said in the beginning of the 19:28.240 --> 19:34.160 other recording, I hope that maybe some of the things I discussed about using Linux and 19:34.160 --> 19:51.360 church is helpful to you, and love Hacker Public Radio listen to it all the time, so hang in there, and take care. 19:51.360 --> 19:56.320 You've been listening to Hacker Public Radio and Hacker Public Radio.org. 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